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Thank you so much for another wonderful round of Holmestice! The mods want to say THANK YOU to all the creators who joined us for this round. You put in a lot of hard work and made some really great fanworks.
Reveals and the Master List go up on June 28th. Until then, please enjoy and comment on all the lovely fanworks. Creators, please do NOT respond to Dreamwidth comments or post your fanwork elsewhere on the Internet until reveals go up in the community. (You may of course reply to comments on AO3, which preserves your anonymity.)
But we're not done yet -- treats are coming right up! We'll continue to accept treats right through until reveals, so if there's a prompt for which you want to whip something up, please do! Just send it to holmesticemods@gmail.com using the regular submission guidelines.
If you'd like to guess at who created what in this round, a list of all the contributors -- including treat-makers -- is below the cut. Go ahead and take a guess! It's all in good fun.
ETA: Eeep! The earlier version of the list of creators had some errors, but it should be right now! (We hope!)
a_different_equation
alexcat
ancientreader
angelqueen04
camillo1978
clearinghouse
colebaltblue
discordantwords
dogandmonkeyshow
dryadinthegrove
gardnerhill
graycardinal
ireallyshouldbedrawing
iwantthatcoat
marta_bee
monkiainen
nairobiwonders
nottoolateforthegame
oldshrewsburyian
rachelindeed
sanguinity
sanspatronymic
tazlet
trobadora
valdavermillion
write_out
Go forth and leave love for your fellow Holmestice authors, artists, vidders, and podficcers. See you again on the 28th, when we reveal who made what!
Reveals and the Master List go up on June 28th. Until then, please enjoy and comment on all the lovely fanworks. Creators, please do NOT respond to Dreamwidth comments or post your fanwork elsewhere on the Internet until reveals go up in the community. (You may of course reply to comments on AO3, which preserves your anonymity.)
But we're not done yet -- treats are coming right up! We'll continue to accept treats right through until reveals, so if there's a prompt for which you want to whip something up, please do! Just send it to holmesticemods@gmail.com using the regular submission guidelines.
If you'd like to guess at who created what in this round, a list of all the contributors -- including treat-makers -- is below the cut. Go ahead and take a guess! It's all in good fun.
ETA: Eeep! The earlier version of the list of creators had some errors, but it should be right now! (We hope!)
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Date: 2018-06-21 04:01 pm (UTC)My only guess so far is
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Date: 2018-06-21 04:37 pm (UTC)I have SO MANY GUESSES this round, I'm kind of shocked at myself?!? I've been keeping a little list as the entries have been posted, and some of my guesses I feel quite confident about while others are a lot more speculative. But what the heck, I'm going to just throw out a quick and unadorned list of my 'for the record' guesses before SCFrankles arrives to deliver the definitive deductions!
MY GUESSES:
Shut Up and Drive vid = sanguinity
Can't Stay Angry art = clearinghouse (thank you again for such a delightful gift!)
Sweetest Friend...You Stubborn Man art = nairobiwonders
Writeout has already guessed ireallyshouldbedrawing for "For Science" and I 100% agree.
Nee Kitty Winter = ancientreader
The Adventure of the Retired Novelist = gardnerhill
Making a Case = trobadora
Carpe Vinum = WriteOut
In darkness I call your name (and you mine) = a_different_equation
Untold Stories = discordantwords
The Adventure of the Blue Parrot = tazlet
Escapade = graycardinal
Mentor = oldshrewsburyian
The Strange Tale of Charon's Obol = navaan
The Norbury Possibility = angelqueen04
Time Best Spent = alexcat
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Date: 2018-06-21 08:31 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2018-06-21 05:38 pm (UTC)Judging by the initial mass of "possible" tickyboxes, this may end up being a singularly challenging round aside from one or two really obvious deductions.
Meanwhile, just to make things interesting, two truths and a lie:
(1) My contribution is written in first person.
(2) My contribution neither mentions nor features Mycroft.
(3) My contribution is not a crossover.
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Date: 2018-06-23 03:10 pm (UTC)My initial guess for you was "Escapade," because the recipient mentioned an interest in pastiche in their sign-up and also because you seemed the most likely to be familiar with such an obscure 'verse. And your clues just barely fit "Escapade" - it's written in first person, it's not a crossover, and there is one brief reference to Mycroft. So my initial guess might still be correct.
But your clues seem a better fit for the fic that was my second-choice guess for you, "By Any Other Name." And, in looking at your sign-ups, I can see that you could very easily have been matched with AngelQueen04 on the basis of Mary Russell and then decided to switch up the 'verse you actually created for (sneaky!!)
So, yes, on reflection I believe it's more likely you are responsible for this lovely Enola and Mycroft fic.
Which leaves the perennial mystery of who the heck went out and found the Holmes vs. Houdini comic for this Holmestice? Bless them, whoever they are! I am firm in committing gardnerhill to your equally obscure Solar Pons fic, so I am going to guess...Iwantthatcoat for "Escapade." They like challenging assignments and said they'd be willing to look up source material for an unfamiliar part of the fandom in order to please their recipient :)
So, my revised guesses:
Escapade = iwantthatcoat
By Any Other Name = graycardinal
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Date: 2018-06-21 11:25 pm (UTC)So: herewith guesses for all the non-ACD prose entries plus the podfic. ACD and artwork will be along later....
Vid
Shut Up and Drive:
Even if there weren't only one vid offer in the spreadsheet, this one would be ridiculously obvious.
Podfic
Mentor:
My problem here is that of the three people who offered podfic, one is this gift's recipient, one has left a comment and kudos over on AO3, and I'm almost certain the third has to have written one of the "Study in Emerald" fics. By extrapolation, that means the podfic is either a double work or a pinch hit, and I choose to guess the latter.
BBC/Sherlock
Carpe Vinum:
Lilacs:
One Tale in Four Books:
Untold Stories:
Despite not actually having seen much BBC/Sherlock, I think I'm getting a handle on the writers of such in our little pond. (Also, one of these can be deduced from external data, and that helps sort out the others.)
Elementary
Case of the Missing Detective:
Study in Emerald
Making a Case:
Charon's Obol:
This pair of guesses is extrapolated partly from known Moriarty partisanship and partly from reconsideration of signup material.
Enola Holmes
By Any Other Name:
Norbury Possibility:
Two Enola Holmes stories, three offers...but
Houdini vs. Holmes
Escapade:
To judge from the signups, the likeliest writer of this story is its recipient...except that multiple datapoints make that impossible. This is my next-best guess.
Solar Pons (etc.)
The Retired Novelist:
I almost assigned this elsewhere, but then I happened to glance back at the signups, and I do believe my estimable creator gave the game away with certain remarks about one of the crossover characters in this delightful romp.
Rathbone films
The Blue Parrot:
Having concluded that
[ETA: Except of course that they left the first comment on this story, and I don't think we've gotten that sneaky around here even yet. Must rethink....]
Ritchie films
Time Best Spent:
Instinct drives this guess. Instinct has not always served me well in these endeavors, but there you are.
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Date: 2018-06-26 08:15 pm (UTC)In leaping on the Dr. Strange references in
And that clue points not only away from
I am torn. I don't think it's impossible; she's done multiple gifts before, and is certainly capable of having written the story, but the style is somewhat different from her usual, and I have been severely misled before in assigning work to
OTOH, it would explain a great deal about some of the conversations in the guessing post this round....
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Date: 2018-06-22 01:33 am (UTC)Guess on my gift..Blue Parrot
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Date: 2018-06-22 04:29 am (UTC)This is Iwantthatcoat
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Date: 2018-06-23 03:37 pm (UTC)No such luck. Two of the five seem to sort themselves out almost at once, and a good look at the "kudos" lists on AO3 seems to settle two more, but that leaves the fifth stubbornly unattributed...with the only two open spaces on the spreadsheet indicating the two artists I thought most clearly identifiable for other entries!
Ah, well. Here are the four guesses based on what I fondly hope to be some degree of logic:
After A Case:
Astronomical Significance:
For Science:
Sweetest Friend:
And now, the guess based on throwing a bunch of confetti in the air and studying the patterns it forms as it lands on the floor:
Can't Stay Angry:
[blinks, rereads confetti]
Gah. That certainly can't be right -- my one brief foray into cartooning, decades back, involved drawing doors with word balloons coming from behind them -- but there are literally no likelier candidates I can justify (I am fairly sure two of my potential artists wrote fic instead, and
Which brings us, actually, to the one podfic in the round:
Mentor (podfic):
Barring a stealth pod-recorder somewhere in the pool, I think this is a safe prediction.
And this has gone long enough that we'll save the problem of the Blue Parrot for another entry.
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Date: 2018-06-23 04:55 pm (UTC)Anyway, here’s my first batch of guesses.
*flips open notebook*
Let us begin with The Curious Case of Rachelindeed. Ah, Rachel, Rachel, Rachel… I could point out that a particular fic is pretty much perfect for you and yet you have not left kudos or commented on it, nor have you recced it on Tumblr. I could point out it involves a favourite canon story of yours and a favourite character, Mycroft. I could add that the fic contains your trademark fresh ideas and rethinking of canon. However, on first reading I didn’t even need to get that far to identify it as yours, as the notes on AO3 began: Thank you for everything you do, colebaltblue, we’re so lucky to have you as a moderator for this exchange! If you want to hide your identity, madam, you’re going to have to get to work on curbing those good manners and generosity of spirit.
I think The Better Part of Valour is by
The Adventure of the Retired Novelist: The Simply Unacceptable Version: This was a perhaps surprisingly easy one. Last Holmestice I got rather carried away and analysed one author’s formatting to a somewhat thorough degree. That author often used the distinctive pattern “word, double hyphen, space, word” and was fond of ellipses. In this fic, I have to admit we don’t see the pattern “word, double hyphen, space, word”. However, we do see the pattern “word, em dash, space, word” twelve times, and there are thirty-two ellipses. Also the writer has replied to comments. This always gives an investigator an advantage - the skilled writer can remove their personality entirely from a fic but they tend to be consistently the same person in headers, notes and comments. One last thing is that the use of brief chapters to break up a relatively short fic reminds me of a particular author’s fic As Romeo to Juliet.
I think The Adventure of the Retired Novelist is by
In Heaven and Earth: Well, firstly this was presumably written by a non-Briton and probably an American. There’s ‘savored’, ‘humor’, ‘theater’, ‘a three-hundred-pound accounts clerk’, Watson refers to Cardiff’s ‘northern weather’ but Cardiff is down the other end of Britain and lies to the west of London, Mrs. Hudson’s brother is called ‘Augie’ rather than ‘Gus’. Also, this is an ACD fic but I counted quite a few nods to the Sherlock fandom, so I assume this is someone who sees Sherlock as their main Holmesian fandom. The author is, obviously, a Doctor Who fan. There are endnotes. The quality of the writing is high, and there is that extra touch of erudition of using Latin in the fic. Putting all that information together, I think this is a pinch-hit by
Making a Case: As this is a Holmes & Moriarty fic, and the recipient didn’t specifically ask for that pairing, it naturally immediately narrows the field to a particular couple of suspects--one of whom we now know has dropped out. But as back-up evidence, I recently noticed one of those two authors has one distinctive piece of formatting--they put a space after a word before adding an ellipsis. There is only one ellipsis in this fic but there is a space in front of it. I am pretty confident this work is by
Podfic for Mentor: As thesoulofdiscretion/clearinghouse says in the comments, Though possibly that beta-listener should be REDACTED? Indeed the author probably should have asked for it to be redacted because a quick look at AO3 and it’s immediately apparent that gentle_herald is friends and literary colleagues with...
The Green-Eyed Detective: I noticed a little bit of unusual formatting in this. After a word or phrase in italics, the author leaves a space before adding any punctuation after it. They also use a single hyphen rather than an em dash. And this is an ACD fic but I assumed they saw Sherlock as their major Holmesian fandom because in the AO3 tags they have ‘Jealous Sherlock’ rather than ‘Jealous Holmes’. I had a couple of writers in mind and when I checked the AO3 fics for the first I immediately got a match for the formatting. I believe the author to be
Escapade: An author quickly came to mind for this fic. It’s a really unusual ‘verse. It’s written by a highly skilled writer. Some words are underlined for emphasis, which always makes me think of one particular writer. And this author hasn’t commented, even though this is an excellent fic and she tends to always be supportive with commenting during the exchange. I think this is by
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Date: 2018-06-23 06:35 pm (UTC)Regarding your guess about my own work - as well as graycardinal's guess - I naturally cannot comment. But I am as amused and impressed as ever to see the forensic analysis you have conducted on various authors' formatting. One of these rounds some ambitious contributor will have to pull a "Reigate Squires" feint and try to elude you by calling in a partner and writing alternate words throughout their story!
Well, presuming that your deductions are correct, I'm pleased that it looks like so far I only mixed up two authors - you have swapped the stories that I had assigned to gardnerhill and iwantthatcoat. To be honest, I'm still proud to have come that close to those two chameleons!
I look forward with great anticipation to seeing the rest of your roster :) In particular, where is sanspatronymic?? It's bothering me that I haven't figured that out...
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Date: 2018-06-23 11:05 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2018-06-23 05:19 pm (UTC)In any case, I really enjoyed this round of holmestice. It's amazing how many great stories and pieces of art come of out this. Making gifts, reading others' gifts, and leaving comments is a lot of fun. Thank you so much to ireallyshouldbedrawing for your very lovely gift for me!
If it helps anyone, I did one pinch hit.
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Date: 2018-06-23 08:57 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2018-06-23 10:59 pm (UTC)First, there's the problem of "The Blue Parrot", as I had failed to note the complimentary comment from
Second, I note on rechecking the posts that I have accidentally made two different guesses with respect to the podfic of "Mentor". I believe both were valid when made, but the second, crediting
It's extremely tempting to solve this problem by simply attributing "Blue Parrot" to
No, if "Blue Parrot" isn't
The Blue Parrot (revised guess):
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Now I just have to work out why I have six ACD stories to assign, and eight players available to fill those six slots....
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Date: 2018-06-24 07:50 am (UTC)So -- guesses first, then brief discussion.
Better Part of Valour:
Green-Eyed Detective: :
In Darkness, I Call Your Name...:
In Heaven and Earth:
Née Kitty Winter:
Peregrinations:
Oddly enough,
And that, as the expression goes, is a wrap.
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Date: 2018-06-28 01:53 am (UTC)I have confounded the infamous Spreadsheet of Doom!
(Actually, I am well aware it is only because you have a family and a life to attend to. Imagine that)
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Date: 2018-06-24 01:30 pm (UTC)Lilacs: I had a relatively small group of Sherlock authors to pick from this time. So I did a little compare and contrast with the AO3 formatting for who I had left and I think I’ve got it. This fic has two notable aspects: ellipses always connect two words and don’t leave a space, and when a sentence ends on a hyphen, the author uses the distinctive pattern ‘word, space, hyphen, space, final punctuation.’ I will also add the back-up clue that the emphasis on books makes me think of a previous Holmestice offering ‘But the Cover was Blue!’ I think the author is
The Strange Tale of Charon's Obol: Just really going by style and who is likely to have written a Study in Emerald fic, I think this is by
The Adventure of the Blue Parrot: I’m not sure I would have got this if Rachel hadn’t stated her guess but… Well, all other creators who have explicitly said they wanted to write a Rathbone fic I’ve assigned elsewhere, and the formatting and writing style match. So I’m going to join Rachel in guessing this is by
The Norbury Possibility: Just going by the rare ‘verse and what was offered in sign-ups, I think this has to be by
By Any Other Name: Last Holmestice I noticed a huge tell, far too late, for one particular writer--they had their hit counters disabled on AO3. And unfortunately it seems they got wise to that and re-enabled them. Very sneaky. Very, very sneaky. So, it’s just lucky for me that they carried on using their trademark disclaimer at the beginning (‘Disclaimer’ in bold; the actual disclaimer in italics), used their trademark statement in bold to set the scene, and used their usual three hashes to end the fic. How do you like ‘em apples,
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Date: 2018-06-24 02:38 pm (UTC)(1) The trouble with explaining one's deductions is that you can only play that sort of card once.
(2) I believe that constitutes a direct offer, much as a certain other player was offered cookies some rounds back, and subsequently received them. O beloved moderators, may I have a ruling on that one?
(3) That being the case, should your deduction prove correct, the answer is "in deep dish pie, with ice cream". [I admit that in the prior case, delivery was made easier by the coincidence of the offering and receiving parties living just across town from one another. But I am sure that a just and enterprising sleuth will be able to find a solution....]
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Date: 2018-06-24 03:52 pm (UTC)You'd think only having 4 Sherlock stories would make it easier to match up authors, but nope. I see the majority of you making guesses have pinned me as author of Carpe Vinum, but am I really?? AM I??
That said, I do agree with the guess of
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Date: 2018-06-25 02:33 pm (UTC)Rachelindeed for "The Better Part of Valor."
Discordantwords for "Untold Stories."
I have no idea why everyone is so sure I wrote "Kitty Winter."
And that's all I've got, I think. Spreadsheet of Doom, I can never meet your standard.
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Date: 2018-06-25 02:54 pm (UTC)I'm sure that SCFrankles would have eventually arrived with an insightful analysis of whatever formatting idiosyncrasies she'd discovered, except that - given that the author note mentions that she acted as a research assistant on the fic - it would not be sporting for her to field a 'guess' on "Kitty Winter"'s authorship. So, in her honor, I will mention what clues I noticed...
The main one was simply that your personality comes through strongly in your author's note - that level of delight in research makes me think of you and sanguinity first, and sanguinity's contribution this round was obviously elsewhere :)
Also, more sneakily, I happen to know that Chryse often works with you as a beta. The mods have obligingly redacted the betas' names on the "Kitty Winter" post, but it remains the only story in this Holmestice round for which Chryse has left a comment!
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Date: 2018-06-27 07:58 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-06-27 08:51 pm (UTC)And don't let the others intimidate you -- at least a couple of them talk a better game than they guess. ;-)
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Date: 2018-06-28 04:52 pm (UTC)But of course half the fun of the round is, as noted far upstream, in the popcorn-throwing and the attempts at misdirection (which mostly failed in my own case, although I am flattered in the extreme to have been even briefly considered as the author of "Escapade").
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Date: 2018-06-28 05:07 pm (UTC)And either way I'm chuffed to have been guessed for two different stories. *beams at the guessers* :D
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Date: 2018-06-28 05:25 pm (UTC)On the plus side I am *thrilled * that my work was also attributed to authors I am very proud to have been mistaken for!
I will make it harder in December. That's a promise.
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